I think they should be counted for personal scores and the like, but I think that only actual official mods should be able to be counted.
The community seems to like using them, but at the same time in doing so makes charts far FAR easier to read in many cases.
Since itg players PRIDE themselves (in all caps) on playing INSANE SONGS they should also keep in mind that part of the difficulty in a game is being able to read the notes at such a blistering speed.
I mean, if I saw someone using a C or M mod playing a 15 foot song I'd be less impressed than seeing someone play a far easier song on 1x.

Although we only have 6 votes, it's split dead even. I'm surprised, I didn't think it would be this indecisive.

In regard to certain songs with high scores under odd mods, I think so long as the same movement difficulty to the player applies, it should be fine. Because I'm okay with uniquely created x2.25 speed mods, it seems like M-mods are about the same.. just more specific.

Even if the arrows themselves appear in a different way, it just goes back to how challenging the chart is. Like I wouldn't call DarkXuxa's quad of SummerSpeedy on x4/Mirror/Distant not legit just because he didn't play on the Overhead x1 standard from back in the day.


Regarding the x1 less-than-15-footer being impressive, I'd agree, but not from the perspective of it being the only legit way. When you get down to AAAing Bag on x1, it's more of a memorization factor than just a player's skill.

MMods, like any other dance-game related innovation, I think should be welcomed by the community.Pretty much every theme I see that comes out now has Xmods in increments of .25x, so every cabinet ends up having practically every speed mod ever anyway. I'd say it's harder to find an unhacked machine now than it is a hacked machine, so the problem of unfairness is irrelevent. As for CMods, according to the latest trends, it's acceptable for stamina/footspeed stuff, even if the song has speed changes/gimmicks. Personally, I like the nice round-fraction look that .5x and .25x mods give and I like the feel of gimmicks, so I stick to those for everything.