And I'm Teep, and I told him about it, ahahaha.  It's pretty cool.  The avatars are cute, except for their feet.  You peoples should play it.... it's free!  Best if you have a real keyboard, I mean, you can play it on a laptop (I play it on a laptop), but you kinda miss out on some stufffs.
STUFFFFFFS.

Stuff angrams to STFFU! (shut the fucking fuck up)

i'll have to check it out. i used to play the hell out of bust a groove 3 so im sure that i will like it

Thanks for the clarification

Yeah, no problem.

Apparently, someone else has been registering to random shitty gaming forums and dating sites as dancingtofu.  It's annoying me.

I remember seeing the awful commerical for this on TV.  Looks entertaining, but I feel like a pedophile when I open up the website.

Is this the one where like 10 arrows or something show up, then you press them in order and hit enter?

It's a fun way to enjoy yourself without doing anything engaging though.

I have the chinese soundtracks, heh. (picked them up in china)

Anyways, it's lame, because they did the same thing with this that they did with dance! online, got rid of most of the awesome asian music that was previously on it and replaced it with cheap-to-license hip-hop.

True that.  Their techno and euro tracks are good, but all too fast to prosper on.

omg nice asia is better post. Asian pop singers have shitty voices lol.
And Hip Hop is generally prohibitively expensive to license. I don't know what kind of people they have doing songs on their game, but beats alone go for 2.5k if you are anybody.

Play the game.  Their hip-hop is shit on small tits.

If music has taught me anything, it's that you can market anything as good and people will pay. Quality generally has nothing to do with price in the music world.

I don't know about their financial reasoning; I'm just stating the situation: their slow songs are shit 9 times out of 10.

And really, hip-hop isn't even really good for rhythm games. <.<

uhhhhhh hip hop is the basis of beatmania. Beatmania is based upon MPC samplers, and JuBeat even moreso. The sample based nature of hip hop is perfect for a sample based rhythm game.
Then again maybe you could elaborate more on your position and you could convince me otherwise.

Generally speaking, I find that hip-hop is a bit slow for a rhythm game. There are of course exceptions, but as a genre in general, I find hip-hop to be suboptimal to dance music for music games.

Songs in the 90-110 bpm range are perfect for Audition though.

Perhaps what you really mean to say is that you don't like the hip hop selection on the Bemani games you've played?  I certainly don't, and I also don't like most of the mainstream hip-hop, but hip-hop and techno have the same structure; hip-hop just has jazz origins and techno has robofuturistic trekkie origins. 

Also, I've heard hip-hop ranging everywhere from 60 bpm to 200 bpm.  No genre is limited to any speed range.

1) hip hop's only basis is the sampler. If you had to choose one genre that is most sampled from you'd have to say soul, but that's even a stretch.

2) Hip hop and "Techno" have two entirely different structures from both a compositional and aesthetic standpoint. Hip Hop is loop based with less variation, "Techno" (I'm not sure what you define as "Techno", but I'll assume trance) has a progressive structure that has more variation than hip hop.

3) No hip hop is 200bpm.

ps saying hip hop has jazz origins could be construed as racism

edit:
4) Music does have specific speed ranges. If you need a solid example, all Jumpstyle is 145 bpm.

You need to explain to me all this fancy newfangled business with techno and hip-hop.  I can hardly tell the difference half the time.  It seems I've wasted the last 6 years learning all I could about every form of classical, folk, jazz, and rock and it's not gonna do me any good anywhere but at a retirement home.  Whenever I try to come up with loops and try to write some techno shit it just comes out neo-classical or alternative rock.

It's funny you bring up Neo Classical. I just purchased the Victory at Sea records at EM the other day. I love that stuff. I used to watch the reels I recorded off PBS as a kid when they re-aired the series.

There's one thing I'm not clear on, and since you probably know more about classical music maybe you can fill me in:

How could "Techno" be considered Neo Classical? Neo Classical music is the opposite of loop based music. It's structure is generally too varied to lend itself to loop based production. And I haven't heard any pieces in the Neo Classical canon of music past the 1950's. It was very common and popular during the 40's though, and it perfectly captures the romanticism of the era. I don't think many producers or composers do music in that style now... Tell me if I'm wrong, because I haven't been formally educated in music. I'm always open to a more complete understanding, so let me know if I'm wrong.

Lastly, I'm very curious as to what this loop based neo classical sounds like.

Well, here's my concept of it.  I haven't looked at a dictionary definition, but before I do, I'll see if I can answer that.

Looking at something like Sandstorm, that's definitely not classical in style.  It's usually looked at as a kind of definitive Techno song.

I think I've either shown you or you've heard the song Death Moon (from O2Jam), right?  I'd consider that neo-classical.  Likewise with the Trans-Siberian Orchestra's music.  Basically, my idea of neo-classical is anything that can be played with a similar or identical musical effect by a traditional symphonic orchestra, but is rendered by a modern assembly.  So I'd consider a lot of the trance and non-looped stuff to be in the neo-classical genre, but something like The Shining Polaris or Mellow, not so much.

As for my "loop-based neo-classical". . .
Well, it's not even really loop-based.  It's what happens when I try to put together a loop.  It's really more of a progressive set of arpeggios, scales, and chords derived from an initial melody that corrupts into many seperate melodies.
Basically, it's when I come up with a riff that would make a good loop, but play it a little differently each time through.  So, there's no looping involved, but the original riff is something that would make a good loop.  Come over some time and I'll show you what I mean, 'cause it's hard to explain without demonstrating.

Now, here are some dictionary definitions for neo-classical:
"c. A movement in music lasting roughly from 1915 to 1940 that sought to avoid subjective emotionalism and to return to the style of the pre-Romantic composers."
"imitating or adapting the styles of the ancient classical world."
"of, relating to, or constituting a revival or adaptation of the classical especially in literature, music, art, or architecture"

So I don't know if any of those argue or support my definition, but I thought I'd at least try not to talk out of my ass for once.


EDIT: I also wanted to point out that by these definitions, stuff like V and No. 13 are neo-classical in its purest form by modern renditions, although they're both listed as "Alternative", I believe.

"ps saying hip hop has jazz origins could be construed as racism"

rofl, hip hop and rap have got to be the most racist/offensive music genres ever (not including songs intentionally meant to BE racist). I for one don't understand the overuse of the N word in todays day and age. Its a racist term, but only if you say it and your white. And I'm not a racist, but the roots of hip hop and rap do come from Jazz, which evolved into R & B, and then Rap. I guess I am a little prejudice though. I hate the hip hop and rap scene. The only rapper I think continuously puts out good stuff is Eminem, but then again, I can't say for sure, since I don't listen rap and stuff very often.

Its kind of like trying to find good techno. Soooo many people have done it, that there is just so much stuff out there that SUCKS.

And I know Daikenkai isn't 200 bpm, but it is pretty damn fast. I don't know if you'd really consider that hip hop though. Tech Nyne also has some very fast stuff. I wonder what one of his songs on  DDR would be like.

Oh yeah, and would Neo Max be considered neo classical? I think so, but I don't really understand what exactly constitues neo classical. Other than classical songs remixed with techno beats obviosly. Dr. M, beethoven virus, and vivaldis winter off of pump are among my favorites like that. But so is No. 13, which I don't think is based off anything original.

Uh, no.  No.13 is essentially a rendition of Bach's no.13.  A and AA on the other hand...