I read through this thread really fast and I can tell that you guys are trippin balls and smoke too much weed trying to make $7000 just to run a Bemani event. I agree with Davyn, Zeppy, Skor, etc. about trying less expensive alterntives

You're on board, that's one of the best ideas I've heard in days. Hit me on AIM tomorrow if you can.



Kevin is handling most of the money right now. Talk to him about it.

Yeah the prizes would likely come from sponsorships, with some of the prize money being used to supplement that.

the potential issue with the whole pre-reg and backup thing as it regards the space needle would be how far in advance the space needle would want a non-refundable deposit.

With 50 people, the tourney would have to be two days, therefore would not be able to held at the space needle as cost would then move up to $14k.

Ten years from now, the ability to say, "i played DDR on the sapce needle!" will probably have little importance in compariosn to the things that actually Matter.  i already have good dancing game stories in my arsenal.  I don't really need any more.


Don't get me wrong, i think that the idea of having a tourney in the space needle is a wonderful idea, but the difficulty of the logistics will make it more effort than it's actually worth.  If i ever do get married, i'm not going to be one of those people who wants to spend $2000 on the Perfect Salad Fork for each guest.  This feels kind of like that - throwing a lot of effort and logsitics into something that in the end is just a single day that by itself will not revive the pnw bemani community any more than a more typical tourney would.

and if you think that stability is a problem on a building like the space needle, you don't want to know about *my* dream of having a ddr tournament {on this}.

So maybe we should make another poll for potential locations. I'm sad to have to leave the Sneedle behind, but I guess if I come to Seattle for a trip we can all just make a mecca... and enjoy what never was

Here's what I've seen suggested so far-
a) Fisher Pavilion
b) Seattle Center

and I personally can't think of any others. Pike Place MAYBE. So let's see some suggestions and we'll open a poll.

So now I need an admin to edit my post's poll. It should read like so:

What location out of the following would you be interested in having an event at?

a) Fisher Pavillion
b) Seattle Center (other)
c) Other (explain)

I put my vote in for Fisher Pavilion just because it sounds more flexible and cheap, and it's right next to all that stuff anyway. We can probably have a huge dinner somewhere after too.

My biggest concern is still WHEN it might be held. I love a good tournament, especially a DDR one, and will definitely go if it doesn't interfere with my schedule.

Again, we're thinking December 2008. Hopefully you get winter break around the same time we do? (Dec 9-Jan 9 for me)

December 08? that's quite a ways away. will it really take THAT much planning, or am I just stupid?

you'd be surprised.

What's wrong with summer 08?

it would clash with me.  

I know a good place for this event. Aberdeen, WA

uhm oneproblem for winter '08, the pass.

not that its aweful or antyhing but it can cause problems.

also, no itg? T_T

i can try to spark some interest in some people from idaho and utah also. i know of at least 5 that would come with me for sure. and then i would have to work to get some more. but i could probably get me and 5 more for sure. cuz this sounds pretty awesome. not that im much into the DDR or ITG scene anymore but im always up for some IIDX action. and meeting new people is always great.

We should talk to Kyle Ward about getting a Pump Pro machine there.  That would bring in a ton of people.

GOD DAMN IT YOU FUCK THAT WAS MY BIG IDEA

That would also save a butt-ton of money, more than you might think. I'm thinking if we can get DDR cheap and Pro free (unlikely but possible) we would draw a huge crowd. Also a well-run Pump tournament would be amazing.

i still wouldnt play ddr at all, XD but if there was a pump pro there, i would love to go, even though id never played pump im sure i could get used to it, withouht much problem, just little different reading and foot movement, but i would still much prefer an itg, or maybe even  apc with two decent metal pads XD, i just love itg, and ddr has to calls to me.

pump would be great though, id love to try it out

I don't suppose SN2 is planning on coming out before this happens, is it?

OH I SEE, I didn't catch that the first eight times. Sorry, but I think DDR is going to have a bigger sweep among casual players, plain and simple. Not to mention there's no chance of there being a new ITG at the time, whereas (and this will answer your question, Tofu) SuperNova2 should be out in America way before 12/08.



I can understand most of what you say but like every now and then there's a sentence like this... what?

Pump is awesome, I'm pretty sure there's at least one machine kind of close to you, so you could get to play a few times before giving Pro, the "Americanized" version a shot. If you like ITG you'll probably like Pro, what with it having basically the same step team...

heh, sorry for saying that so much, i just wanted it to be mentioned, ddr is a horrible game , and maybe pushing a little bit for at least a tiny bit of itg .



eh sorry, what i ment to say was, "ddr has no calls to me" i was a bit tired when i wrote the post, and as for my posts being un-understandable, sorry, i will put a little bit more effort into my posts for better calrification.

as for pump being around... hmm west side of the state..... 6 hour drive... somewhere in oregon.... another good few hour drive..... or southern idaho... 9 hour drive.....

pump is kinda not anywhere close


again, sorry for my posts being so lazy, ill put a bit more effort into them hence-forth (thts a cool term )

Well, this was a huge step up quality-wise so props to you.

On DDR being a horrible game, I disagree massively and I urge you to give it another chance, mostly because I was EXACTLY like you when I started playing dancing games seriously. (Better grammar but you know what I mean) It's not as difficult as ITG, sure, and it certainly doesn't have as many options as far as edits are concerned, and well, the steps aren't even close to as polished, but there's an endearing quality in the game that I think Roxor didn't try even try to nail with ITG.* I can't speak for SN or SN2 though, the only DDR mix I have extensive knowledge and experience with is Extreme.

*I've noticed that an endearing sort of style crept into Pump Pro for whatever reason, and the more I discover all the easter eggs they have hidden, the more I'm warming up to it. Which also makes me laugh when I think that hardcore Pump players are dissing it for not "retaining the Pump feel," because if you dig a little deeper you'll find that the game itself has a fair share of loving cheesiness to it. This wasn't much of a footnote. Sorry :[

part of my reasons for not playing ddr are
1. the screen is too squished so i have to read at alot lower speed then i would like to.
2. i dont like the stepcharts, some decent songs, but the good step charts are too few and far between.
3. there are no good ddr pads around, the closest to good we have are the ex at NT, but even those are aweful.

i could give more examples as to why i dont like ddr, but ill leave it at that, those are the bigger reasons anyways.

more on topic, how feasable is an allnight\two night event? i would probably chip out more money for something like that, and have alot more fun, what does everyone else think about this?

again, if we could get a pump there, i would love it (and then steal it when nobody was looking //ninja) IIDX would be nice, i take interest in that, what if we also had an option to have a good ol lan party there for people who wanted? i would probably bring my laptop ANYWAYS, but theres jtus an idea.

on that note, what if instead of having juts bemani stuff going on we could also add other things of ineterest, maybe attract more people, and introduce them to bemani. that way we would all be having fun, we would alll meet new people, and we would be attempting to revive the PNW community.


and sorry for my aweful grammer, its been awhile since ive had to write anything with proper grammer and punctuation, but ill make an effort so i dont look like a total idiot (well elss of one then i do now)