Regarding SN2 unlocks, What do we need to do to get that done?  I was going to research that, but have to get my butt off to work now.  Lets get that done!

They're just like ITG unlocks. Anyone can do them.

http://www.konami.jp/bemani/ddr/na/am/sn2/secret/index.html

I may swing by Acme today, so I could give this a shot? Can you only do one per credit, or only one unlock per game?

You have to do it immediately after inserting your coins, and before it goes back to attract mode, so that's usually time to get only one code in. Maybe two if you're really fast.  I unlocked Pink Gorilla's machine, and thankfully had access to the op menu to reset it each time.

You can't just enter the last one by itself?

I tried this, and it didn't work... So after playing through another set and putting in another credit, I tried entering in the Lv1 code, and it also didn't work. Am I doing something wrong? I got both codes in well before the "How to Play" screen came on, so I'm not quite sure why it isn't working.

You have to do them in order, 1, 2, 3,... You can't step on arrows before the code starts, and it's really fussy.

Ah, this could be it, then. I was also just running through it like it was a doubles chart; the game could only be registering one arrow at a time?

I only had a few bucks in change on me, so I didn't bother trying it more than a few times. Sorry guys. :/

Oh, one more thing, it worked when each note was on a beat, because in the code they're on each line, so it always worked when I hit each arrow as if it was a quarter beat note.

Chromatic Blitz is only 190 with no crossovers. Other 13s are like 170-185 also usually w no crossovers. This chart of which you speak doesnt sound like much fun at all >.<

I didn't know this, I didnt thoroughly look through the Extreme folder I just saw it and assumed it was only 8th mix, so my bad.

Yeah pretty much.... I like more dance/techno type stuff rather than japanese pop though also which is just a matter of opinion I guess. Plus I love things like hands and mines and what they bring to some very cool 9s and 10s

I agree there are definitely some crappy charts on ITG but I just notice a lot more good charts on here as opposed to once in a while a SN+ song that I like. Zephyr, AA, Doll for instance are very awesome songs and charts IMO on SN but not many else made much of an impression. I could list off a lot of very good ITG charts from each mix, even ITG1, which admittedly has a good amount of garbage too.

I could find you a ton of very cool ITG expert charts as I said. What I feel ITG really lacks for stepcharts are the sub-expert charts tend to be crap and
The doubles charts are indeed awful with a very few exceptions.

Anyway really I was just venting my frustration with this mix... Maybe I just need to play more of the unlocked charts and so forth. It would just be better for me if Bemani didn't have the monopoly to kill it for we more serious arrow stompers... Glad I was at least cleared up on a few things.

- ITG 3 (Hacked) ($1 / 3 songs)
- DDR SuperNova 2 (75¢ / 3 songs)

Went to go check out the newly installed SN2 last night. I was honestly quite impressed. Same price and same playable condition as it was previously as SN1. Many new songs, but I didn't see Pluto or Saturn or Uranus available.

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Apparently an AA on the 3rd song won't give the Extra Stage anymore..

Oh god you're one of them.  They who pick daikenkai and A every single set on extreme.

They really don't have that strong a monopoly, actually.  Andamiro has an indefinite royalties agreement to release similar games, and Konami's patent rights are actually pretty debatable; Roxor did some very stupid things that amounted to taunting them (new DDR content had shifted to home versions entirely, ITG was meant to fill the arcade gap, then Roxor went for a home version, and Konami finally filed paperwork in response to Roxor's now-direct competition, at least according to Foy), but in general, any company that actually asks Konami before selling a game, gets permission (NeonFM and Guitar Hero got 100% free licenses on Konami's patents from what I've heard; the Rock Band team never checked, and Konami eventually sued, which is hilarious when you consider that GH and RB were made by the same team, so they would have known that Konami wouldn't refuse the license).

Konami even helped build and distribute the Guitar Hero machines that we all know and hate, since they had experience with arcade machines and the GH team didn't (and asked for help) - the horrible quality of the machines was Betson's fault (they made the same mistakes for US DDRX machines, whereas Konami made the problem-free JP DDRX machines themselves).  Freely licensing your patents, allowing competitors to undercut your prices (Andamiro's [PIU and ITG] cabs are MUCH cheaper than DDR cabs) with those licenses, and helping competitors branch further into your market are very monopolistic behaviors apparently.

The only thing Konami is really guilty of is arrogance - their legal moves have always followed companies sidestepping the formality of asking Konami if it's okay to compete with them; Konami actually seems pretty sure that they won't lose the majority market share.

The planet songs need to be unlocked via a code you enter in on the main title screen.  Saturn is worth it.

The Extra Stage / Encore Extra Stage system is freakin' weird in SN2.  The Wikipedia entry for SN2 has all the details.  Until unlock codes are entered the default 3rd stage song you need to AA in order to go to the Extra stage is Unreal.  Have fun with that pos chart.

Why does everyone hate on Unreal's chart, it's like, representative of an ITG style chart if anything, hahaha

I might go today, if I do I'll enter the codes

Unreal reminds me more of a keyboard chart than an ITG chart

wait it reminds you more of an ITG chart than a keyboard chart?  What?  (I meant to say what I said, so don't respond to it seriously)

I went but I didn't write down the codes so I didn't unlock everything.

I hate daikenkai actually. A is ok I guess, I like AA better. Mostly on extreme I did random all nonstops and challenge courses. If I picked they were usually like rhythm and police, sakura, so deep, those kind of charts and theyre definitely good. And so is Xepher Best no-bar 10 to do on DDR IMO (and besides sakura and bag the only no bar 10 thats any fun to play at all anyway IMO). And cool song unlike practically every other 10.
No. double single double single double single double and left down upright   right down upleft over and over and over and over with that pattern.... its the same thing the whole song and its garbage and no fun to play, ITG doesnt have THAT shitty charts. Generic at times but not the kind of crap in that song. And its not a 9 either really Sorry I just hate that song from the first time I played it...

I gave SN2 another shot today. It's not THAT bad I guess, I like the marvelous timing and since it's got more songs than I had originally thought I'll prob play it as much as SN1 at least.

yeah just like a watered down Bouff.  double single etc etc though?  That's not how the chart goes at all...

Thats what I remember about it. And bouff has some of that at the beginning, but its more of a crossover song really past the first 30 sec or so.

I played bouff today.  it has sort of the same structure as unreal, except it has a long 8th run instead of a slowdown.

unreal has the long 8th run that has a bunch of jumps in it and are cross-overy.  ...you know, just like bouff

by the way when i played driving force classical today, i realized that the chart is seriously just a pile of shit.  it sucks so bad

As much as I want to argue with that I dont really remember Unreal that well except the LAME parts of it of which I thought there were many. Bouff is cool to play, esp no bar. And a way cooler song. Just a matter of opinion I suppose.

I'd just like to add my bit on this whole Unreal discussion...
Honestly, I think it's one of the worst charts I've ever played on a machine (so supposedly "professional") and I despise it. I think it's not at all representative of an ITG style chart, I think it's representative of people not really knowing how to make a good chart.

OOoooooohhh BURN!

I think Unreal is fun. Got 19 greats and 80 perfects (full combo) for the first time playing it haha =P

I had 3 life bars for extra stage. My score was 976xxx.

Failed extra stage about 30 seconds into the song because I forgot to put it on x1.5 (I left it on x3...) I thought it was like SN1 where the mods were stuck on x1.5 reverse; Found out at the last second lol.