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ancsik
Read October 04, 2013, 03:33:31 PM #2751

I had an interesting idea. It's a bit overkill for our needs, but maintenance on the ITG machine isn't always the easiest thing. A lot of stuff gets to me by text messages through the few people who have my phone number. I want to set up trac (http://trac.edgewall.org/), a piece of issue-tracking software (also a wiki engine and probably 18 other features). Every software company uses something like trac, and trac is completely free, but it would be kind of separate-ish from PNWBemani (it's not compatible with the forum software out of the box and setting that up would probably take a ton of work if it was possible in the first place, so I'm not even going to look into it).

New content for the machine? File a ticket and I'll actually have an easy place to look to find it. Find inappropriate-for-Acme content? File a ticket and it'll actually be written down somewhere. I always bring my laptop to Acme now, anyway, so I can set this up as a personal thing only, or I have permission to get some server space of my own and spawn off trac.pnwbemani.net so that we can all use it to organize information pertaining to the Acme ITG machine.

Any thoughts on the matter?
 
Suko
Read October 04, 2013, 03:51:20 PM #2752

I'd just like to second that I couldn't get Simply Love to work on my machine, either. Something is up with that theme (yes, I tried Mute's version, too). My modded ITG3 theme has C and M mods...but I get the feeling that the ITG community gravitates towards the most minimal themes possible. Other than the ability to choose a different judgment font, I don't really see the pazaaz with the Simply Love theme. But, to each there own. I still have that ITG3-s theme link active from a few pages back if you care.
 
AndyBurnsDDR
Read October 04, 2013, 09:20:12 PM #2753

I'd just like to second that I couldn't get Simply Love to work on my machine, either. Something is up with that theme (yes, I tried Mute's version, too). My modded ITG3 theme has C and M mods...but I get the feeling that the ITG community gravitates towards the most minimal themes possible. Other than the ability to choose a different judgment font, I don't really see the pazaaz with the Simply Love theme. But, to each there own. I still have that ITG3-s theme link active from a few pages back if you care.
I'd just like to second that I couldn't get Simply Love to work on my machine, either. Something is up with that theme (yes, I tried Mute's version, too). My modded ITG3 theme has C and M mods...but I get the feeling that the ITG community gravitates towards the most minimal themes possible. Other than the ability to choose a different judgment font, I don't really see the pazaaz with the Simply Love theme. But, to each there own. I still have that ITG3-s theme link active from a few pages back if you care.

Well Simply Love wasn't meant for OITG which is the problem in the first place and why it's so difficult to run. Everyone has different builds and computers and there are just so many variables that it's tough to get it right. I Still don't have it running on my OITG on my Laptop but I have it on my SM3.95.
I think Simply Love is nice because it gives you the option of picking colors which IMO gives the player a higher advantage because colors can really affect your mood.
I always thought that Max 300 sounded intense but without the flaming red backgrounds and mines everywhere it's not nearly as intimidating.
Picking the Judgement font is also really nice because again colors/flashes/minor differences in font can really affect different people in different settings.
I like picking fonts that flash when I'm trying to FA things  because it gives me a pulse but don't like it during stamina because it's to distracting.
Simply Love also more precise mods for C and X mods and it does the math for you to tell you your scroll rate which is really nice for songs with speed changes or just to keep a constant among lots of different charts.
I felt pretty limited in that respect on your theme Scott.
Having a .75 option goes a long way but being able to play in increments of .10 Gives you that extra precision that might help a person read something they never could before or keep a chart at a rate where a song isn't two slow but isn't two fast.

But honestly if you incorporate split C and X mods, have good mini percentages, hide BG or Shades that don't DQ, and a decent font it shouldn't matter what theme you have.
I always loved Gold Theme haha because it was on a Dedi in Cali I used to play on all the time. 
 
cwkarma123
Read October 05, 2013, 09:08:17 PM #2754

Posting to say, thank you to Tony for putting on some new content on our machine at ACME!

Also, I just wanted to mention that I did some work on the Player 2 side bottom arrow. After foam modding the bottom arrow, it seemed to get stuck every once in a while. To help alleviate this problem I tried to switch the upper sensor on the bottom arrow with the right sensor and it worked out perfect!

Just logging what I've done thus far!  Grin

Thanks
 
cwkarma123
Read October 07, 2013, 01:53:59 PM #2755

Huge problem at ACME! The power cord for the ITG machine is broken, can't turn the machine on. Hopefully someone can come down soon to fix this. Otherwise it's obviously unplayable.

Just saying that the power is on and it seems okay atm, the power cord however is still broken, not sure how its on to be honest!

Ill keep you posted.

Well just got done playing, not sure how the machine was turned on with the broken plug but I guess it is what it is. I still think it needs to be addressed!

Thanks

« Last Edit: October 07, 2013, 05:20:36 PM by APHR »
 
ancsik
Read October 09, 2013, 04:23:42 PM #2756

IIRC, The power cord is a standard desktop computer cord. Like this thing: http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-6-Feet-Replacement-Power-Cord/dp/B00000J1UQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1381363799&sr=1-1

You can get them even cheaper if you hunt around. If anyone has a desktop they aren't using and lives near Acme, feel free to give it a try. I'm using all of mine at the moment. They also sell them at Fry's. With the machine it's current position, the outlet is immediately behind the machine, and the plug is on the lower left side, so any length of cord should be enough.

Oh, and the cord is damaged because people keep pushing the machine too close to the wall. Someday, I hope to get the machine rigged up in such a way that I can do all the maintenance work remotely (push new song packs from home, change settings from my laptop while sitting near the machine, triggering a machine reboot during your set before it can save if you take one of my records, that kind of stuff), at which point I won't need to open it up for every little thing anymore, and we can put the feet down again.

Until then, to avoid putting pressure on the cord, if you do push the machine back up against the wall, here's the rule I use. Slide it off the wall by enough that you can fit your hand - fingers held together and straight, thumb out (use the hand that doesn't jam your thumb in the wall, obviously) - snuggly between the machine and the wall (this puts the machine about 3 inches off the wall with my hands), and repeat on both sides, to make sure it's parallel to the wall. This also ensures that the vents on the back of the machine actually have some circulation, which keeps the internals happier, meaning the machine keeps working. Line up the pads however you want after squaring the machine against the wall, rather than setting up the pads and lining the machine up afterward.
 
mvco
Read October 09, 2013, 04:31:08 PM #2757

Someone phoned our shop about the power cord about the same time the post was made here.  Needless to say, a new cord was installed a couple  hours later.  :-)  And yes, nothing special about these line cords, just the standard computer type used on everything these days.

That brings up a funny story.  Since people sometimes need these power cords, we have a few ghetto spots where the cords get stolen on occasion.  Always have to carry a few spares.
 
cwkarma123
Read October 10, 2013, 12:16:55 AM #2758

Someone phoned our shop about the power cord about the same time the post was made here.  Needless to say, a new cord was installed a couple  hours later.  :-)  And yes, nothing special about these line cords, just the standard computer type used on everything these days.

That brings up a funny story.  Since people sometimes need these power cords, we have a few ghetto spots where the cords get stolen on occasion.  Always have to carry a few spares.

Thank you for replacing the broken power cord! When I saw that the power cord was broken, I nearly died...  Sad 

I know as much about computers as I do nuclear physics so I seriously thought the ITG machine was going to be out for a while. So, thanks for coming to our rescue and fixing it!  Grin
 
ancsik
Read October 12, 2013, 05:24:03 PM #2759

Met up with vyhd today, and we confirmed P2 USB was working, with one slight hitch - the USB Hub on the front plate is broken and we configured it using a spare port on the computer. Now we just have to install some kind of working USB port on the front of the machine.
 
ancsik
Read October 13, 2013, 07:58:05 AM #2760

Oh yeah, the P1 down and right arrows were giving me some trouble - the down arrow especially is very easy for me to stick. I adjusted the bracket screws a little and it got better, but I was still getting errors during almost every song. I haven't been messing with the foam, except for moving the occasional stray piece back into place after it slides out, since I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to the foam, but I can definitely say that some of the brackets were really sticky and it definitely helped to adjust the screws.

I'm assuming these are issues relatively specific to me, my build, and my playstyle, since others don't seem to get as many issues (I played Land of the Rising Sun from ITG1 - it's a 7 for those who don't remember - and got 8 misses on the right arrow yesterday), but it's still pretty bad for one player to not be able to play. I'll take a look again today and may end up taking out just a little bit of foam in some key spots if I can figure out where the problem is, since I think the stickiness is largely that the foam is making them a hair over-sensitive, and then a sensor is too strong or a bracket too sticky and it jams super easily.
 
ancsik
Read October 14, 2013, 07:14:20 AM #2761

Unless something changes, I'm going to head straight to Acme after work to play and, if no one else is there, to tear open the machine and try installing some replacement USB ports on the front. I'm replacing the hub with a nice USB wall plate I found and running extension cables from the plate to the computer - this should be a lot less breakage-prone(and easier to fix if it ever does break - than the hub was, plus it's likely to save/load a little faster without a cheaply made hub getting in the way. It's just going to look a little non-standard, since there's going to be a wall plate (like a normal power outlet, but with USB ports) where the old hub used to be.

« Last Edit: October 14, 2013, 07:16:09 AM by ancsik »
 
cwkarma123
Read October 14, 2013, 09:57:21 PM #2762

From what I've noticed the Player 1 side is that the bottom/right arrows tend to get stuck when you play with heavier steps. I tend to play relatively light on my feet so I generally don't run into that problem. Also, the use of Powder helps alleviate this problem.

I will go in tomorrow afternoon, around 3pm to re-adjust the pads, they need some TLC anyways. I'll make sure the sticking won't happen and take a look through all the sensors and panels and replace the old foam with some new foam.

I'll keep you guys posted with regards to how the pads are functioning!

Thanks for the heads up.
 
ancsik
Read October 15, 2013, 08:42:22 AM #2763

I can't use powder, even the slightest bit and the pads are too slippery for me, and it's not just a matter of preference - even holding the bar, I can barely stay standing on powdered pads, let alone actually try to play well.

Also, I installed the new USB ports yesterday. They're the ugly thing taped to the front of the machine where the hub used to be - I'm going to talk to Bill about longer term solutions than a whole bunch of tape, but the mounting plate for the old hub is welded in, so I had to rig up what I could for now to get something working. Both ports are working as far as the computer is concerned, but P1 is still misconfigured for some reason, so only P2 USB works for now, ut it does work.
 
KevinDDR
Read October 15, 2013, 01:43:27 PM #2764

Might be nice if you could find a way to mount it on the left or right side of the machine similar to either what the actual upgrade kits did or what the machine at Narrows had.
 
cwkarma123
Read October 15, 2013, 03:55:59 PM #2765

Good news everyone!  Huh

I just finished repairing the pads and they both seem pretty good to me. The issue with the player 1 side getting stuck has been resolved as far as I know. I played the player 1 side with more of a deeper/heavier step to check for sticky arrows, and I didn't run into any problems.

Again, feel free to contact me if anything acts up with regards to the pads!

Thanks!
 
AndyBurnsDDR
Read October 20, 2013, 12:19:41 PM #2766

Good news everyone!  Huh

I just finished repairing the pads and they both seem pretty good to me. The issue with the player 1 side getting stuck has been resolved as far as I know. I played the player 1 side with more of a deeper/heavier step to check for sticky arrows, and I didn't run into any problems.

Again, feel free to contact me if anything acts up with regards to the pads!

Thanks!
So Evan, Tuan, Hollie and I were there last night. Left arrow P2 side was miss firing/Sticking pretty badly. Everything else was great!
 
cwkarma123
Read October 20, 2013, 12:59:27 PM #2767

So Evan, Tuan, Hollie and I were there last night. Left arrow P2 side was miss firing/Sticking pretty badly. Everything else was great!

Ah, got it, I'll fix it today!  Grin
 
cwkarma123
Read October 20, 2013, 03:22:58 PM #2768

Just finished some repairs on the pads and they seem to be functioning pretty well. I replaced some foam that's been moved around during play and added a few layers of tape to help keep the pads flush with the center panel.

Also, the foam I'm using now isn't the best, it tends to move and compress to easily. I'm using a High Density Foam Tape/weatherstrip and its not cutting it. Any suggestions for a better foam tape?
 
Pez
Read October 21, 2013, 09:22:10 AM #2769

It's supposed to be compressed. All foam compresses immediately after using. There is a break-in period. That foam lasts the longest, in my experience, and no other foam has as much life/elasticity as the high density rubber tape I always use.
 
Pez
Read October 21, 2013, 09:23:19 AM #2770

I started using a different modding method on my left side. So far I'm still tweaking and its not perfect but its way faster to maintain and work with than doing the corner mod. I'll post more about it later if anyone is interested.
 
cwkarma123
Read October 21, 2013, 11:59:11 AM #2771

I started using a different modding method on my left side. So far I'm still tweaking and its not perfect but its way faster to maintain and work with than doing the corner mod. I'll post more about it later if anyone is interested.

Yeah! I would love to her more insight on how to mod the pads better.
 
vyhd
Read October 21, 2013, 05:04:08 PM #2772

Both ports are working as far as the computer is concerned, but P1 is still misconfigured for some reason, so only P2 USB works for now, but it does work.

Did you set the ports in Static.ini corresponding to the ports in Machine Diagnostics? If it's coming up as P2 on the P1 port, the matching logic either sees that port as matching P2, or as explicitly not matching P1 if P2 has no matching criteria.

In any case, it should suffice for remote troubleshooting if you can send me a copy of Static.ini and the output of "lsusb -v" with unique devices plugged into the ports of the front hub. Otherwise, I can sort it out in less than 10 minutes if we meet up some weekend to resolve it.
 
Happy Redneck
Read October 22, 2013, 05:01:36 PM #2773

For some reason last week when I put my usb in slot 2 it read as "csik". I remember seeing this weird problem a few times years ago.
 
Suko
Read October 23, 2013, 12:11:36 PM #2774

For some reason last week when I put my usb in slot 2 it read as "csik". I remember seeing this weird problem a few times years ago.
That used to happen all the time for us. It's like it loads a local copy of someone else's profile sometimes....no clue why it does that.
 
OrangeChicken
Read October 27, 2013, 05:44:31 PM #2775

Hi guys. I'm a newfag to these forums and somewhat a new Sunday regular to the ACME. Name's Kevin.

« Last Edit: October 27, 2013, 06:30:26 PM by OrangeChicken »
 
 
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