Ill post here when I get the sensors and post when I will go.

ATTN: Powder Users!

I am going to ACME today to clean out the powder from inside the stage. This process will take roughly 10 minutes, so if you are there when ACME opens, there will be a slight wait time.

Also, I will be marking on the ground away from through traffic where powder should be place if you choose to use powder. This way, powder will be kept away from kids running through the arcade. I will mark the ground with masking tape so please try to keep your powder within that designated area. More specifically, the "powder area" will be located slightly left of the Player 1 side, away from through traffic.

Please, after you are finished playing at ACME, remember to completely remove any trace of powder that you see. Wipe down the stage and "powder area" with a damp towel until no powder is visable!

This action is taken to comply with some of the concerns raised in the forums about powder use.

Thanks everyone (powder users)!

APHR, thanks for taking the charge to help take care of that concern!

APHR, a designated powder area is a GREAT idea. Thanks for taking the lead on this!

Hey APHR's idea for a designated powder was a great idea.


Here is what we did. I hope this spot works for everybody.



"P" = Powder Playas
         Phoot Speed
         Power Up
         Phalcon Punch
         Powder Puff Station

u spelled a few things wrong

yeh, thts not how u spel "equlz"

thanks, needed the help there

Now you're playing with POWER POWDER!

(famous Nintendo ad campaign)

Good news, 600.00 worth, a full set of 32 high quality sensors are on there way.  

I figured I had better share the bad news in advance, in case anyone wants to get some last month Fiesta in.
Anyhow, sadly, the PIU Fiesta has been the lowest earning game in the room for a few months now, and of course it takes a big footprint.  With a half dozen new games on the way for fall arcade upgrades, PIU has to go.  We have not picked  a home for it yet.  Could possibly move to another nearby location.  Starfire Sports Center is only 2 miles from Acme, we could put it there if the community does not want it to leave the area.  But would anyone really go there just to play pump?

Bill

Even though I don't live there anymore: Noooo, Pump. I hope it finds a good home. I have no idea what I'd do with it, but if you're ever interested in selling it...

Hi Bill,

This is fantastic news with regards to the new sensors! I am eager to install them and make your stage the best stage in the PNW! I will install them as soon I receive them.

Thanks again and again,

Chris

Even though I don't play Pump that often I am still really sad to see it go. Hopefully you can find it a good place near by.

Well shit. I'm really sad to see pump go; it's by far my favorite game at ACME, and I don't have an easy way to get to Starfire by bus. Is there any chance the machine's location in the arcade has something to do with its poor earnings? It's off in a quiet little corner behind the other two much more visible dance games. Would it be worth moving it to see if that boosts earnings before getting rid of it?

Dangit, I was literally just about to seriously train my PiU skills. I put in some sessions last couple times I was there.

Oh no! I actually liked pump!

Darn them youngin's with their racing games and first-person shooters.

Wait, I'm a youngin'.

But I enjoy rhythm games. It's sad that it's going.

I guess that's what happens when I don't visit Acme in months...

Man, I just got back from Vietnam and was planning to practice up my piu skills...I think i might be hooked on piu now since that's all I had to play overseas. Hope that somehow pump can stay, if not, it's gonna be sad to see it go

Here is what you really should...   

You should come beast with me and Abbye this week, and come do the 5k Sandblaster run in September.

Pump has been literally the only reason I go to Acme since the ITG pad disaster started. The downside of that is I don't drop by very often, but I'd definitely go play it if it were elsewhere in the area.

Honest question to Bill / other members:

If the PIU machine is already the lowest performing machine for the past few months (sad news indeed) while the machine is at the most likely location for music gamers to play it (referring to Acme, not the back corner of the arcade), wouldn't relocating it to somewhere that's not Acme just be a life-support alternative to getting rid of it completely?   Wouldn't PIU still be a low performer at wherever it gets moved to?

an argument doesn't immediately mean someone dislikes someone else. i argue with a ton of people and i think the key thing to learn about argumentation is that when you direct a point it's at their argument and not them unless you are going after a fault in character. even then, pointing out fault is not the same as the newspeak "PERSONAL ATTACK" that gets thrown around a lot.

 i am disagreeing with your methodology in going about all this but tbh at this point it's not even worth arguing bc it seems like the pads are moving in this direction w/ or w/o player input and the community is becoming more fragmented because of it. this whole fiasco is sad in that many players' issues with this whole debacle are being perceived as tertiary to the "real" problems. there have been a great deal of valid concerns expressed and it's absurd that people feel as though they are above criticism and can move forward to push an inward looking agenda while laying claim to a philanthropic desire of helping the community. also you say this is a trivial matter, but it seems like there are heartfelt responses on both sides of the debate.

good luck w/ the pads i guess, but in closing the long term solution is to get a machine.

I don't think this is the situation at all anymore.  The poll regarding for/against the pad modifications shows that the majority of the currently active community members are indeed in favor of the modifications.

Those who are against the modifications have made several posts here about the situation.  I reached out to ask APHR about the possibility of a "half-way" mod between recessed and flushed to which his response was that the halfway option would be worse for everyone and it was tried early on in the initial modifications of the Acme machine.

If that is indeed the situation, there will have to be a choice made one way or the other; for or against modding.  Before we start going down that road again, we are going to wait for the new sensors to be installed, at which point anyone with a complaint should try the machine one more time and then we will have a new poll to see whether the community is in favor of the mod or not.  If a "halfway modded" machine is not possible, at that point we'll have to decide whether the mod stays like it has been or to put it back as recessed.

The fact that Bill says revenue has been up is another good indication that the community of active Acme players are actually is in favor of the modification. Yes, the presence of a mod would means some people are currently not active at Acme; but the inverse would be true that the pro-modders would probably be less active at Acme if the machine went back to being recessed.


TL;DR: Iori, you're not honestly representing the current state of the situation. Concerns are being evaluated and investigated, and we're all trying to figure this out without any group ignoring the desires of the other side.

Well then, Iori, I apologize for having responded so angrily to you as well. I pretty much wanted to defend APHR and Rose because they're like close friends to me. I don't think we were able to tell that you weren't arguing for the sake of starting fights, or that your tone was supposed to be calm and debate-like. I sort of just assumed, from your previous sarcastic comments that you just wanted to cause trouble.

I hope we can get along if we do ever meet in person.

RE: a "halfway" mod not being possible - I know PLENTY of machine owners in other parts of the country who have modded their pads to be raised but not completely flush, and these pads have been flawless. Just because one person doesn't know how to do it doesn't mean it isn't possible! I would be happy to reach out to some such people and ask them to describe their methodology if that would be agreeable to everyone here?