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BLueSS
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« Last Edit: February 11, 2019, 08:55:28 PM by BLueSS »
 
cwkarma123
Read August 23, 2014, 03:45:38 PM #3376

Went last night, and I'm happy to report (like everyone else) that for the first time in forever I didn't note any pad misses! It was very satisfying to get some FECs again.. or just full-combos for that matter.
 Cheesy

My one critique is that the pads are pretty slippery, as if there's a permanent small layer of WD-40 or invisible baby powder. This makes playing no-bar Singles harder and playing no-bar doubles (of anything 9 or higher) pretty much dangerous.
So... perfect score for the sensors yesterday, but it's shame that doubles has to played with bar use, unless I bring some Windex.

Hey Zac(H or K, I keep forgetting! Wait, no H or K?),

Glad to hear that the stage is working well for you! Makes me happy!  Cheesy

It has been a long time coming for the stage to work well with modding! It is now clear that the modding wasn't the issue but the sensors.

As far as the stage being slippery (a.k.a dangerous/hazardous/life-threatening/coma-inducing/cancerous/carcinogenic/etc...), I'd suggest grabbing a damp towel before starting play or as Andy B. suggested, bring an extra small towel for wiping. We've been doing our best to keep the stage powder free. We've stopped placing powder directly on the stage and we are using a minuscule amount to prevent any life-threatening scenario.  Wink

Other than that, I'm glad you like the stage!  Kiss Kiss Kiss
 
cwkarma123
Read August 23, 2014, 04:59:14 PM #3377

Was there a particular reason why the sexuality violation packs were removed?

I know that there were a few song that shouldn't have been allowed at ACME but that doesn't mean the entire pack should've been taken off.  Sad
 
ancsik
Read August 23, 2014, 06:18:09 PM #3378

I took SV1 off because it's redundant and multiple people have pointed it out to me. I took SV2 off by accident while deleting a few songs called out as inappropriate. It'll be back on there tomorrow morning.

Oh yeah, pads were perfect today. No errors at all over the course of 10 or so sets.

« Last Edit: August 23, 2014, 06:20:34 PM by ancsik »
 
TMN (Taylor)
Read August 23, 2014, 07:27:50 PM #3379

I took SV1 off because it's redundant and multiple people have pointed it out to me. I took SV2 off by accident while deleting a few songs called out as inappropriate. It'll be back on there tomorrow morning.

Oh yeah, pads were perfect today. No errors at all over the course of 10 or so sets.
Did you by any chance put the DDR BOSS SONGS pack on the machine? Thanks if you did!
 
cwkarma123
Read August 23, 2014, 07:41:07 PM #3380

I took SV1 off because it's redundant and multiple people have pointed it out to me. I took SV2 off by accident while deleting a few songs called out as inappropriate. It'll be back on there tomorrow morning.

Oh yeah, pads were perfect today. No errors at all over the course of 10 or so sets.

Awesome!

Thanks for putting the SV2 pack back on, a lot of people enjoy that pack!  Grin

Also, makes me really happy to hear that you didn't have any issues with the stage! We will continue to keep the stage maintained and in good condition.  Smiley
 
DJ Yoshitaka
Read August 23, 2014, 08:31:22 PM #3381

Dunno why i read sv2 as sound voltex 2 lol.  Got excited
 
OrangeChicken
Read August 24, 2014, 01:26:00 AM #3382

On other news:

To either Ben or Tony or whoever is in charge of modifying the pack list at ACME:

I have reviewed the Sexuality Violation pack and tried my best to censor anything that is inappropriate for a public family venue. I was too lazy to mix in music to areas I've silenced, so it will sound awkward sometimes when there's just an abrupt silence in the song.

Here are songs that I've cleaned:
  • Blurred Lines
  • Gas Pedal
  • Hollaback Girl - I've also pixelated the word "shit" in its graphics, and you can try to copy this to the IWSS2 pack Chris is requesting as well
  • Niggas in Paris - This song's in-game title and graphics have also been changed
  • Scream & Shout
  • White Walls
This is a link to download the edited/cleaned versions of the audio. Simply copy and paste to overwrite the folders to the same pack (I'm assuming you can just do that on the OS running?): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B02WHE9YpaYeVWZzaGgzVFYxbkE/edit?usp=sharing

Here are songs that are not at all decent and need to be removed entirely from the ACME Cab:
  • I Don't Like
  • Racks
  • Smell Yo Dick

Also, because SV2 is simply an expansion of SV, can we just have the first Sexuality Violation pack removed? Takes off some space.

Thanks.


about the SV pack, refer to this pl0x

EDIT: Omg, also, Tony, would you mind adding my Orange Chicken's Grooves pack please?: http://www.pnwbemani.net/bemani-discussion/orange-chicken's-grooves/
thank youuu

« Last Edit: August 24, 2014, 01:29:35 AM by KLOC (Lil Kevin) »
 
ancsik
Read August 24, 2014, 07:56:21 AM #3383

Did you by any chance put the DDR BOSS SONGS pack on the machine? Thanks if you did!

Going through and downloading requested packs right now, then I'm off to Acme and packs should be on the machine.
 
TMN (Taylor)
Read August 24, 2014, 09:41:22 AM #3384

Going through and downloading requested packs right now, then I'm off to Acme and packs should be on the machine.

Thanks dude!  Cheesy I'm going down to ACME today so I may see you there.
 
ancsik
Read August 24, 2014, 02:09:12 PM #3385

Alright, restored SV2 (with the inappropriate songs cleaned/removed), added Orange Chicken's pack and DDR Boss Songs.

Also took the USB box off, because it turns out the P1 port broke and needs to be replaced. The USB cables are dangling out of the machine right now because I forgot to bring tape. If anyone thinks to bring some tape with them (or is APHR and has it anyway), can someone just put a piece of tape across the P1 cable and the P2 cable/adapter so people are more likely to leave them alone until I can cut out the old USB faceplate next weekend and install something less ugly and harder to break than the box-taped-to-the-machine?
 
cwkarma123
Read August 24, 2014, 03:11:40 PM #3386

Alright, restored SV2 (with the inappropriate songs cleaned/removed), added Orange Chicken's pack and DDR Boss Songs.

Also took the USB box off, because it turns out the P1 port broke and needs to be replaced. The USB cables are dangling out of the machine right now because I forgot to bring tape. If anyone thinks to bring some tape with them (or is APHR and has it anyway), can someone just put a piece of tape across the P1 cable and the P2 cable/adapter so people are more likely to leave them alone until I can cut out the old USB faceplate next weekend and install something less ugly and harder to break than the box-taped-to-the-machine?

I can do that for you Tony. I'm not going tonight, but I will be there at opening tomorrow.  Wink
 
Gerrak
Read August 24, 2014, 09:39:27 PM #3387

Hello,

Despite whatever plans there might be to change up the SN2 machine, until this change is actually made I would like to request that pad maintenance please still continue on the SN2 machine... I have called in 3 times to have the pad serviced. Now, hopefully the last time got the point across, but in case it didn't I wanted to report it up here also. Basically all of the arrows need to be serviced, on both sides, for being under-sensitive. I have born witness to lighter individuals being utterly unable to trigger things, and I've gotten tons of errors along similar lines. It is extremely discouraging and unreasonable for people to fail due to errors. Thank you to the appropriate parties for this consideration and service.

Regards,
G
 
cwkarma123
Read August 24, 2014, 09:50:54 PM #3388

The DDR sensors are under-sensitive?!  Embarrassed

I would take a look into it, but I haven't dealt with a DDR stage before and really haven't had to fix an under-sensitivity issue. Perhap, the stock foam on the L brackets are worn down to nothing, so maybe replacing that, or just adding a few layers of tape to compensate for the years of wear-and-tear could help alleviate that problem.

But, won't know until we try something, haha.  Grin
 
BLueSS
Read August 24, 2014, 09:57:51 PM #3389

I have called in 3 times to have the pad serviced. Now, hopefully the last time got the point across, but in case it didn't I wanted to report it up here also.
Allan, are you intentionally being rude to Bill about this?  The guy who just helped get us new sensors for ITG, and is ordering the upgrade?  You're being too aggressive about this and a bit entitled.

I played on the SN2 machine this week when I was testing the new ITG sensors, and I didn't have any problems with the machine. I'm only 130lb, so I'm generally included in the "lighter individuals" category. I was getting close to perfect combos despite being tired; not getting close to failing songs.

It's quite possible someone looked at the pads and called them good, just like I did when I played on them this week.

If you were having trouble because they were recessed, those pads are REALLY deep down, so if the people having problems have playing a lot of ITG lately, they could be not stepping hard enough to hit the pads or something...

« Last Edit: August 24, 2014, 10:00:40 PM by BLueSS »
 
Suko
Read August 24, 2014, 10:28:06 PM #3390

Those pads should be nearly identical to ITG's sensors/brackets.

I made a video a while back on how to improve sensativity of the pads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLkXsJK1tz0


If you want to increase sensitivity without raising the panels (i.e. the old school method), then just fold a few business cards and slide them under the sensors themselves. I've been doing this on my machine for years (and other arcade DDR pads) with great success.

Here's another article I made on the business card trick:
http://www.pnwbemani.net/articles/arcade-machine-maintenance/business-card-trick/23

« Last Edit: August 24, 2014, 10:36:23 PM by BLueSS »
 
OrangeChicken
Read August 25, 2014, 12:47:37 AM #3391

Thank you for doing this, Tony!

Much appreciated!

Edit: Shoot, if i had seen your post i would've taped up the usb port for you since i am aphr now

also, i was reviewing the SV2 pack making sure our request was fulfilled, but there's one concern: N*ggas In Paris still has the same title as before

I have changed the simfile's metadata but i'm certain ACME's ITG is running on Fast Load and that its cache for SV2 may need to be reset. when it's "loading" up the banner, it shows the original picture but then it fades into the new cleaned picture

« Last Edit: August 25, 2014, 12:54:13 AM by KLOC (Lil Kevin) »
 
mvco
Read August 25, 2014, 04:14:36 AM #3392

We did respond to the SN2 pad issue.  Sent a guy out a week ago, he cleaned the sensor area, added a few shims, and replaced a few sensors.  Says stage was "A-okay" when completed.  Not sure what is going with it now, seemed fine?
 
cwkarma123
Read August 25, 2014, 08:41:31 AM #3393

Edit: Shoot, if i had seen your post i would've taped up the usb port for you since i am aphr now

<_<

>_>

-_-
 
Tyrgannus.
Read August 25, 2014, 01:33:02 PM #3394

Apologies for not coming yet to test the stage. I've had car trouble and been dealing with some lame drama. Should come out very soon (possibly tomorrow) not that those issues are resolved. From what I hear it plays great though, so I'm excited.
 
Nykkel
Read August 25, 2014, 08:42:26 PM #3395

Played three or four games of single and three or four games of double on the ITG machine.  Any difficulties were due to personal failure.  I had no issue with the stage.  (I also played one Single game on the Supernova machine, on the P1 side, and had no problem with that stage either.)
 
cwkarma123
Read August 25, 2014, 08:44:52 PM #3396

Played three or four games of single and three or four games of double on the ITG machine.  Any difficulties were due to personal failure.  I had no issue with the stage.  (I also played one Single game on the Supernova machine, on the P1 side, and had no problem with that stage either.)

Good to hear that the stage wasn't giving you any trouble Nykkel, and thanks for testing out doubles! We don't have many doubles players at ACME so the few that do post here offer valuable feed back!  Smiley
 
OrangeChicken
Read August 25, 2014, 10:58:05 PM #3397

add moar stupid doubles/couples stuffs

those are hilariously fun to play
 
Gerrak
Read August 26, 2014, 09:20:24 AM #3398

Yay responses:
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Allan, are you intentionally being rude to Bill about this?
No, of course I am not intentionally being rude, but I did call in several times over a week's time and it didn't appear to show any improvement. Typically, as per the answering machine message, "service has been out immediately", but I figured it just kept being forgotten and I saw it as a reasonably urgent issue.

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I'm only 130lb, so I'm generally included in the "lighter individuals" category
I'm 130 also, but we're adult males. Imagine if, for instance, a 95lb person you're playing with can't get things to register or, say, kids who are significantly lighter than we who are grown and predisposed to be heavier. I was calling on others' behalf, not my own. Though I was getting some delay on things registering also due to lack of sensitivity.

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If you were having trouble because they were recessed...
I do play DDR almost every time I go to Acme still, so I'm still quite accustomed to DDR pads and style. Other parties involved at the time had not yet really started on ITG much.

But in any case

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We did respond to the SN2 pad issue.  Sent a guy out a week ago...
That's interesting, and appreciated. I was unaware of this and I apologize if I indeed did come off as rude. I still was having some problems a couple days ago, but maybe it wasn't the whole pad anymore. I know the left side's up was being bad, but maybe the errors were mostly or wholly resolved elsewhere on the first maintenance. Anyway I would appreciate one more look at that particular arrow and maybe test the whole thing one more time to make sure, and I'll be sure to give both sides a thorough look when I go next also. Thanks!
 
Laura
Read August 26, 2014, 09:37:18 AM #3399

FWIW, I've been playing a lot of DDR (though the last time I played was about a week and a half ago because I've been in California) and I haven't had any problems with SN2 and I like the pads just the way they are. I weigh roughly 110 lbs.
 
OrangeChicken
Read August 26, 2014, 03:29:31 PM #3400

i'm that 95lbs person lol

i sometimes have to hold on the freeze arrows with all my weight so it's a bit difficult

maybe if that were accustomed for all weights
 
 
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